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John Webb and Hannah

HUSBAND:
John WEBB. [Webb Family Study].
Born about (12 April 1640-S5,S6,S8)(1641-S?)(about 1642-S3)(1648-S?)(1650-S15) probably in Hartford, Norwalk or Stamford, Connecticut; and possibly the son of Richard WEBB and Margaret MOYER. However, the will of Richard does not mention a son named John, so this connection is called into question.

John could have been born in the Boston area. (S4,S6).
It is also possible that he was born in Saybrook, since it was founded in 1635. (S5).
He could have been born in the Hartford area, since Richard and Margery lived there for a time.
The John who was born in Braintree, Norfolk County, Massachusetts (S8) was the son of Christopher, so he is out of the question.

Since John and Hannah were married prior to the settlement of Haddam, where they are both listed as founding settlers, which founding occurred in 1662, John could not have been born in 1650. The date in 1640 is much more logical.

Pobbible family connections for John:
* John Webb is said to have married Susanna Cunliffe, however, the John Webb who married Susanna Cunliffe was the son of John Webb and Ann Bassett (S11), and was not the son of Richard and Margery. John Webb and Susanna Cunliffe married and died in Northampton, Massachusetts. John and Susanna also had a son John who married a Hannah or Anna, but they resided in Springfield, Massachusetts, and that trail ends there.
* John Webb and Anna Bassett are also not a possibility. John and Anna did go to Hartford area for a short time, but then they left Connecticut and went north to Northampton, Massachusetts. Their children remained in Northampton area. (S11).
* If he was born in 1640, it is possbile that he could be the son of Richard Webb and Elizabeth Gregory, though there is no indication that this could be the case. No children are listed for Richard and Eliabeth, but they were married probably between 1636 and 1640, which would have been the correct timeframe. Argument against this is that Richard and Elizabeth are said to have had no children, but they took Sarah, youngest dau. of the Rev. Samuel Stone, into thier home aand brought her up. In 1677 Richard's widow, Elizabeth Webb, employed her “Beloved Brother, John Gregory, to make an agreement with Thomas Butler, of Hartford, and his wife,” they “laying claims to the estate of her husband, Richard Webb, deceased.” Also, Richard Webb and Grace Wilson already had a son named John, so would probably not have named a son John by wife Elizabeth.

John Webb, our ancestor, married Hannah. This is known from the list of founders of Haddam, Connecticut. (see list below). Unfortunately, her maiden name is not given. The best guess then is that they were married about 1660. However, it is interesting to note that they were married possibly about 1660 but didn't have children noted having been born until about 1667.

John was one of the original founders of Haddam, Middlesex County, Connecticut. (S2, S5,S13). The first purchase of land within the limits of Haddam was about 1652, when Captain John Cullick, who had for some time been secretary of the colony of Connecticut, having extinguished the Indian title, obtained a confirmatory grant for what was then called Twenty Mile Island, now Lord's Island, and a tract on the east side of the river near it, the dimensions of which are not given. (S13).

Prospective settlers contemplated making a settlement here as early as 1660, and in October of that year the Legislature accordingly appointed a committee to purchase the lands from the Indians, but negotiations were not concluded until 1662.

A large tribe inhabited East-Haddam, which they called Machemoodus, or the place of noises, from the noises or earthquakes which had been heard there. These indians were of a fierce and wretched character, remarkable for pawaws and the worship of evil spirits. The noises from the earth regarded as the voice of their god, confirmed them in their monstrous notions of religion. An old Indian being asked the reason of the noises, said, “The Indian’s god was very angry, because the Englishman’s God came here.” As the lands above mentioned were purchased of four Indian kings, Sachusquatevemapid, Keawaytahue, Turramuggus and Nabahuett, and two Indian queens, Sepunnemo-pampcossame and Towkishe, other tribes doubtless inhabited other parts of them. (S16).

In 1660 the Connecticut Colonial Legislature sent Matthew Allyn and Samuel Willys down the Connecticut River from Hartford to purchase land from the Wangunk Indian Tribe at the place the English called 'Land of Thirty Mile Island'. There are two schools of thought on how "Thirty Mile(s) Island got its name. Early historians write that the earliest settlers thought the island was thirty miles from the mouth of the "Grate River" at Long Island Sound (it is only 17 miles from the mouth of river). It is also plausible that the Island got its name because it is 30 miles down river from Hartford and the town was settled by men from the Hartford area. (S10).

In May 1662 the Englishmen finally purchased land comprising approximately 104 square miles and extending in six miles on each side of the river from the straits at "Pattyquonck" (now Chester) to the Mattabeseck-Mill River (now Middletown) across to the line of Chatham (now East Hampton). The English paid 30 coats (worth approximately $100) for the land from four Native American chiefs, two queens and others. The Native Americans did set aside some property for their own use including 40 acres at Cove Meadow (Chester) and Haddam Island as well reserving the right to hunt and fish where they pleased. (S10).

The purchase was concluded on 20 May 1662 by Matthew Allyn, and Samuel Wyllys for thirty coats. Lands were deeded to Matthew Allyn and Samuel Wyllys, their heirs and assigns forever, excepting Capt. Cullick’s land already sold, Thirty-Miles-Island and 40 acres at Pattaquounk, which the Indians reserved for themselves; together with a right to hunt and fish where they pleased, provided they did not wrong or abuse the English. (S16).

Soon afterwards a company of 28 men and their families from Hartford, Windsor, and Wethersfield, in whose behalf the purchase had been made, entered upon the land and commenced improvement. (S10,S13). These men and women included:

Nicholas & Mariam (Moore) Ackley. Of Hartford.
Joseph & Elizabeth (Wakeman) Arnold. Of Hartford.
James & Hannah (Withington) Bates.
John & Lydia (Backus) Bailey.
Daniel & Hannah (Spencer) Brainerd. Of Hartford.
Thomas & Alice (Spencer) Brooks. Of Hartford.
Samuel & Elizabeth (Olmsted) Butler.
William & Katherine (Bunce) Clark.
Daniel & Mehitable (Spencer) Cone. Of Hartford.
William Corby (No Wife Listed).
Abraham & Lydia (Tefft) Dibble.
Samuel & Anna (Burnham) Gaines.
George & Sarah (Olmstead) Gates. Of Hartford.
John & Martha (Steele) Hannison.
Richard & Elizabeth (Carpenter) Jones.
Stephen Luxford (No Wife Listed).
John Parents (No Wife Listed).
Richard Piper.
Thomas & Alice (Spencer) Shayler. Of Hartford. [Note that the Shayler family was from Stratford, England as was the Webb family.
Simon & Elizabeth (Wells) Smith.
Thomas Smith (No Wife Listed).
Gerrard & Hannah (Hills) Spencer. Of Hartford.
John & Rebecca (Howard) Spencer. Of Hartford.
Joseph & Elizabeth (Spencer) Stannard.
William & Elizabeth (No Maiden Name Listed) Ventres. Of Hartford.
John & Hannah (No Maiden Name Listed) Webb.
James & Elizabeth (Clark) Wells.
John & Mary (Bronson) Wyatt.

This tells us that John and Hannah were married prior to their settlement in Haddam.

John Webb does not appear further in the records of Haddam, Connecticut. The records from that time period are scarce, so we are not certain how long they lived there, but it appears that they did not live long in Haddam. He does not appear with a lot on the Early Settlement Map compiled by Richard M. Bayles. If the records of the children are correct, it appears that they moved to Saybrook, Connecticut before too long.

In 1659, almost all settlers from Saybrook under the leadership of Mason, purchased land from Uncas, sachem of the Mohegan tribe, removed to and founded Norwich, Connecticut. (wikipedia). This left somewhat of a vacumn in the Saybrook area, which may have spurred John's removal to Saybrook, probably about mid 1660's

There are several possibilities for his death:
1. John Webb died on 19 MAY 1670; in Northampton, Hampshire, Massachusetts (S17,S20). This location precludes him from being the correct person. In fact, this is the John Webb who married Anna Bassett.
2. Source 6 says he died in 1720, but this is definitely the wrong John Webb. This is the John Webb who married Susanna CUNLIFFE, and who lived in Northampton, Massachusetts.
3. John Webb died on 18 September 1706 in Stamford, Connecticut. (S9). He is probably related to Richard Webb.
4. John Webb died 27 MAY 1684 in Saybrook, Middlesex County, Connecticut; of which John Webb dyed 27 of May 1684. (Saybrook, Connecticut Vital Records). (S7,S8,S18). This probably is the correct date, but there is not enough information to determine for certain.

Therefore, it is believed that John Webb died on 27 May 1684 in Saybrook, Middlesex County, Connecticut. (S7).

WIFE:
Hannah. (S5).
Born about 1645. She was (of Saybrook-S?)(of Hartford-S8), Connecticut. She married John WEBB.

Source 8 says she died 26 August 1667 (S8), however births of the children indicate that this is probably not correct. Source 20 says that it was Anna Webb who died on this date in Northampton. (S20). Thus, this was Anna Bassett who died on this date.

CHILDREN of John WEBB and Hannah:
  1. John WEBB. Born (1667-S5)(8 JAN 1667-S8) at (Saybrook, Middlesex County, Connecticut-S5). He married Ruth GRAVES. These may certifie that John Webb was lawfully joined in marriage to Ruth Graves Janry ye 25th 1699 or 1700 as witness my hand ye 15th January 1702-3. Tho: Buckingham Senr.. (S18). He died (28 January 1710-1711-S5)(28 January 1711-1712-S18). His widow Ruth married (2) William Merriam.
  2. Samuel WEBB. Born (in 1669-S5,S8) in Saybrook, Middlesex County, Connecticut. He married Abigail. He died 2 February 1738 in Connecticut.
  3. Lydia WEBB. Born (in 1671-S5,S8) in Saybrook, Middlesex County, Connecticut.
  4. Sarah WEBB. Born (in 1673-S5,S8) in Saybrook, Middlesex County, Connecticut. She married Thomas Birchard in Norwich, New London, Connecticut on 12 September 1708. Thomas was born in Connecticut.

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